canadianwheatpirates:

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slyngureinsogminkur:

iphisquandary:

slyngureinsogminkur:

Misandry as a concept frames (cis) women as perpetuators towards (cis) men. It frames a historically oppressed demographic as the real oppressors. It’s a buzzword to shut down discussions about misogyny used by cis men who see women as their enemy

Transandrophobia is not that. The main perpetuators of transandrophobia are cis people, yes, even cis women, who do hold privilege over us and benefit from our oppression. Trans women may perpetuate transandrophobia, but it’s more akin to other kinds of intra-community bigotry such as biphobia in gay or lesbian spaces. We do not believe trans women are our enemy, no more than I as a bi person believe that gay or lesbian people are my enemy

These are not the same. We do not believe they are the same. And we’d love it if you’d spare us the good faith to understand this too

I don’t see why we can’t use the word transphobia. Trans people are transphobic toward one and other all the time. This is just another instance of that. I don’t really think that we as transmasculine people face a special kind of oppression that other trans people don’t. Our experiences of transphobia are different from others - that’s what we call intersectionality. But creating a whole new word implies that we face some sort of additional oppression on top of that which I don’t think is the case

Would you deny me describing efforts to cure autism as anti-autistic ableism because “it’s just ableism, that’s what intersectionality is for”?

If there is a movement of cis people concern trolling trans women about “an explosive increase in confused autistic gay men getting their genders transed by predatory TRAs”, I’d love to be informed of this. Who says “we lost a gay man” when a trans woman comes out? This brand of transphobia is more than just transphobia, it relies on painting us as gullible, helpless and immature women who can’t make our own decisions, which is classic misogyny. It punishes us for being men when we ought not to be in the patriarchy’s eyes, because it is within the best interest of the patriarchy to gatekeep as many individuals as possible. It’s transandrophobia.

If just using the word transphobia was enough, why do so many people mistakenly believe we have male privilege and cannot be hurt by misogyny? Why do so few people know that we are at a higher risk of rape and suicide than trans women?

Creating a specific term, especially when it is needed, isn’t meant to imply that we are more oppressed than anyone else. In fact, implying that there is a One True Type of oppression that all other types of oppression stem from is frequently an aspect of radfem rhetoric. It doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. 

Considering how much our issues are erased and brushed off because “others have it worse” is exactly why the term transandrophobia is needed

OP said it better, but:

“Our experiences of transphobia are different from others” is exactly why we need a word for it. It’s a different system, backed by a different set of beliefs, and resulting in different impacts, than traditional transphobia. The way people think about transmascs is different from the way people think about trans women, transfemmes, and non-transmasculine nonbinary people.

Creating a word to explain that system, those beliefs, and those impacts does not imply we “have it worse”. It implies we have unique experiences that deserve to be acknowledged.

Anti-transmasculine/transandrophobic attacks are a key wedge that’s allowing the UK to genocide young trans people (banning puberty blockers only for young trans kids, who will have to detransition into often hostile school environments, is an act of genocide against the trans community. Forcing trans people to detransition in general is genocidal, because it aims to wipe us out and it will kill those of us who cannot go back into the closet).

We need allies to understand transandrophobia, because if they approach these attacks as “just transphobia” they will not respond correctly and will not be able to stop them. Most of the rhetoric about young trans people is aimed at young trans men. The recent legal case is by an AFAB detransitioner and most prominent detransitioners are AFAB. Most of the fearmongering is about testosterone “ruining” their “daughters”, and that young trans men are “only identifying that way out of internalised misogyny”.

These are not discourses that can be fought with basic level “trans men are men!” rebuttals, because that’s the point: they hate that we are men and will commit genocide against trans people of all genders because of it.